Our Kids Could Use a Little “Lord of the Flies”
“It was like… what was that book with the kids on the island?”
“Lord of the Flies?
“Yes! Lord of the Flies! That’s what it was like out here.”
The above conversation (more or less) took place last Memorial Day, at my in-laws’ house in Astoria, Queens. My brother-in-law, Johnny, my husband’s older brother, was waxing reminiscent about his childhood on those streets in this enclave in the northwestern bit of New York City’s most diverse borough.
What he meant by Lord of the Flies wasn’t that the kids he grew up were so unsupervised that they descended into a frightening, murderous gang with a conch shell. What I think he meant was that he and the neighborhood kids were alone often enough, and with enough autonomy, that they were able to form their own society, for good or ill. They figured things out. They negotiated, as best as kids can. Through trial and error, they knew what they could work out amongst themselves, and what required a quick run home for adult back-up.
In that, the Astoria kids of the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s were not unlike the suburban cadre of kids I ran with. We were on our own once we crossed the thresholds of our homes, once our bikes had disappeared around the corner, down the street, into the woods. And I’d venture to say that they, and we, were tougher and smarter in many ways than our kids are now.
Johnny, my husband and their younger sister, Debbie, merrily swapped stories about happenings that would absolutely not occur today, not on their block of brick row houses with the alley behind, and not on my suburban cul-de-sac, either. Stories like:
- The neighbor, Candy (Candy!) who was a stewardess (that’s what they were called then!) with no children of her own, who would call the kids into her house when she was home between flights, and give them candy (candy!) and pin those little airplane wings to their shirts. What was her game?
- The local Good Humor ice cream man, who would take fresh apricots the kids filched from a neighbor’s tree in exchange for rides around the ‘hood (and free ice cream) in his truck. What was his game?
The What was his/her game thing is meant to make you think: There was no “game,” no evil intent. Candy liked the kids in the neighborhood, and who doesn’t like to make a bunch of kids smile? (Plus, if you’re known as the nice lady who gives out candy and airplane wings, those kids are less likely to, say, egg your house on Halloween). The Good Humor man? He probably liked apricots. And obviously he was — like zillions of people that surrounded those kids then and our kids now — just your average decent person.
How cynical have we become that, in 2013, the very phrase kids catching a ride in the Good Humor truck gives so many of us the shivers?
It’s interesting to me that while so many aspects of our childhoods may not be as “good” as what we’re able to offer to our own children, we’ve also let them down in many ways.
A few weeks ago, I encouraged my boys, who were riding their bikes in a tight little circle in front of the house, to ride down the street to the park by themselves. It was a big step for them, and bigger for me. I was kind of hoping they might run into some other kids there, and play, and figure out a game that would work gloriously for a while before it all fell apart and they got into a disagreement that they’d have to work out.
In fact, they came back in a half-hour because no one was there and they were bored.
Something’s lost. I’d like to figure out a way to get it back. You?
Kayris
June 2, 2013 @ 2:23 pm
I hated that book with a passion. Your title alone gave me the shivers.
Heather
June 3, 2013 @ 3:06 am
I remember at my sons age in kindergarten riding my bike everywhere and not coming home for hours on end. I too would like this back, to give my son that freedom without freaking out. When you figure it out let us know.
Ashley
June 3, 2013 @ 5:23 am
I like giving the kids free range – just go and play! I think they need time just to be themselves, sort out their arguments and learn their own place in the world. I do not condone fighting at all, but it’s about having the freedom to try new things. It is a balancing act, but my kids are outside more than inside and like playing wihtout adults (althought we can join in occasionally!)
Louisa
June 3, 2013 @ 6:00 am
I grew up late 70s and early 80s in the UK and had similar freedoms. I was frequently sent down to the shops on my bike with a shopping list to hand over to the butcher (in return for a jelly baby sweet!). There was quite a busy road to cross. I can’t imagine doing that now with my 7 year old yet!
However, I am starting this summer and will stand outside the shop while she buys her sweets, then stand on the other side of the road while she goes in and buys her sweets, then let her go from the house.
But when I mention this to friends they look quite shocked that I would consider this. Our children need to learn street-wise, street-smarts.
Christina Baglivi Tinglof
June 3, 2013 @ 9:25 am
Is it crazy to say that I hate that my kids hang out more at home than anywhere else? Now that they’re teens, I encourage them to “go!” Anywhere. The other day in fact, I was talking on the phone with my sister and told her that one of my sons took the bus to Starbucks to meet a girl for coffee. “You let him ride the bus alone?” she asked. HE’S 17!!!!
Carrie
June 3, 2013 @ 10:07 am
Yes. Yes and more yes! I’m sure you’re familiar with Free Range Kids, right? My kids are only 1 and 3, but I’m already sick to death of people admonishing me to supervise them with 24 hour surveillance because “someone could take them!” – and they are referring to anyone I’m doing now! Oh, no! They’re planning out my parenting style for the next 15 years! This fear-mongering has got to stop. It’s insane, especially considering the fact that -if I remember this correctly – crimes against children are DOWN to levels not seen since the 1950’s!
It takes finding more people who think this way, putting the kids together and letting them go to make a change. Otherwise, you finally get your kids to go to the park and they come home because no one is there to play with.
We have to teach out kids Street Smarts 101, then send them out to get the real-world education in being able to navigate the world without Mommy. Talk to strangers! Please, do! BUT do NOT go anywhere with a stranger! Teach them to listen to their instincts: what does your gut say about ____? Role play what to do in different scenarios and then let them go to do it!
In this day and age, we can give our kids a cell phone or a long range walker talkie for emergencies. We aren’t going to be completely cut off from them, no matter how much they play outside. So why not teach them the basics and then let them go?
But we can’t fix this one family at a time. We have to do it in unison, so our kids can find other adventurous friends to play with and learn from.
I’m irritated with kids who run to their mommies on the playground to settle disputes. Whatever happened to figuring out how to get along (or not, as the case may be) on your own?
Ugh. I’m rambling. Anyway, I agree with you and think you wrote this perfectly. Kids today are missing out on so much. Good luck finding other free range parents to hang with!
Carrie
June 3, 2013 @ 10:08 am
And I hate autocorrect. Sorry for the misspellings and grammatically off sentences. Thanks, iPhone!
Denise Schipani
June 3, 2013 @ 10:55 am
Carrie, thanks. Yes, I am familiar with Free Range Kids (Lenore Skenazy is a friend of mine) — her message needs to be heard in more places and by more people. But I think, sadly, that the fear is greater in many minds than reasonableness. What I always try to get across is that not only is it safe and good for our young kids to be out there NOW, it will serve them well LATER, when they do have to go out there and negotiate and deal with people without Mommy or Daddy to intervene for them. But i do get that it’s tough to do. I’ll keep trying!
Denise
Elizabeth J
June 3, 2013 @ 1:05 pm
I have a book of bedtime stories from the early 1950s (about the children on What-a-Jolly Street, with a story for each day of the year). In that book, children as young as 6 run to the store for their mother; an 8-year-old takes her 6 and 3 year old brothers downtown to buy Mother’s Day gifts for their mom; 9 year old boys mow the lawn and a 6-year-old watches his 18 month older sister while their mom is up the street helping a neighbor. All of this is completely normal, yet none of that would ever happen in our little subdivision today. I’m trying to give my 10 year old more freedom and responsibility, but it can be hard to do against the prevailing norms.
Sally
June 3, 2013 @ 3:14 pm
To me the saddest part is that while I can let my kid go out in the neighborhood, there is no one out to play with because all the other parents wont let their kids out of their sight. So, while I can (and do) let my 11 year old ride his bike around the block, there really is rarely anyone out and about to bump into. And there are lots of kids in my neighborhood. They are just at soccer or Karate or baseball or in the house. It’s sad really.
Tara
June 3, 2013 @ 8:29 pm
God, yes. I am a recovering helicopter mom, and now I send my kids all over the neighborhood and into the nearby woods. Go. Get yourselves dirty (they do), build a bridge over the creek (they have), use your best judgment (no stitches yet), and take care of each other.
Amanda
June 3, 2013 @ 10:54 pm
I love this post. I am going to share it with the world. So many people think I am a little nuts because I let my 7 and 5 year old play out front of my house without my hovering over them and let them walk the whole 200 yards to and from school together without me. I have taught my children not to go into the road and what boundaries to follow. We are very lucky to live on a street where most of the children actually do play outside together with no parents in sight. Freedom is an amazing thing to give to your children. They are happier children because of it too.
Claire B
June 21, 2013 @ 5:21 pm
So timely Denise – when you posted this, I was visiting my mother in England. My 5 year old introduced himself to the neighbour’s kids and played bikes and ran around in the cul-de-sac all day and every day while we were there. At no point during the week were the kids every out in the street without at least one parent in their front yard, watching them.
One of the dads was a childhood friend of mine. He and I just sat and mourned the freedom that we’d had as children in that very same street, those very same back yards. And at the same time felt our stomachs lurch when any of the boys dared to ride their bike past the corner of the street!! It is so hard to get past the fear and at the same time remember vividly leaving the house, tromping over the fields to the woods and just making sure we were home in time for dinner. I want that for my own kids so very much…