The Bus Stop Conundrum: To free-range or not to free range
Last fall, a new family moved into our neighborhood, and on the first day of school, there was a new girl at our little bus stop. They’d arrived at their house literally the day before school started. From Israel.
That first day, the father took his little girl, Hadar, 6, to the stop. She wanted to take the bus (even though her English wasn’t very strong), and he was planning to follow in his car to complete her registration at the school. There were two other children in the family besides Hadar: an 11-year-old girl named Tevel, and Albel, a baby boy.
I’ll be getting to my point here — which is about how today’s parents do roughly 100% more hovering over their kids than my parents did when I was my children’s age — in a moment, I promise.
But first a wee bit of geography. I live on a longish, curvy suburban street, with no sidewalks. Our bus stop is about a 20-second walk away, at a stop sign where a small cul-de-sac intersects my street. From my front windows, I can’t quite see the stop sign on the corner, thanks to a curve in the road.
Here’s Daniel, at the bus stop on his first day of Kindergarten, in 2007:
The Israeli family moved into a house in the cul-de-sac; from their front porch, it’s a straight shot to the bus stop, with no need to cross the street. On the second day of school, and nearly every day thereafter, little Hadar left her house on her own (though sometimes her big sister Tevel walked out with her). And when the bus returned the kids in the afternoon, she walked back home on her own.
I tried to picture the scene from Hadar’s mom’s point of view (she was usually just inside her door, with baby Albel): Why, she must have thought, were those other three moms standing there? But from our perspective, she was the one who looked off to us. (This, a woman who’d served in the Israeli army).
When I started first grade, I walked with my sister down the street and around the corner to our stop, well out of sight range of our house. My mom, who had not served in any country’s army, but who had grown up in Brooklyn and walked to school every day, watched as long as she could see us, then went back inside.
These days, bus stops are coffee klatches and meeting spots for moms, dads, grandparents sometimes, and of course the kids. Our bus drivers are not allowed to let kindergartners off the bus for anyone but their parent or guardian, and even my neighbor and I can’t get each other’s kids off the bus without clearing it with the school first. Back when I was a kid, bus stops were lawless places. Anything could happen there, any many things did (none of which our parents were told). Like the time, for the space of an entire winter, an older boy made it his mission to steal my hat and hold it up just out of my reach. I fought that battle (not well, I have to admit; I still get hot tears just thinking about it) on my own.
One of my mom’s often-repeated stories from my first school year is how she would watch for me to round the corner in the afternoon, with my plaid jumper skirt (this was Catholic school) just grazing my knobby, bony knees, my green knee socks clinging to my stick legs (I was kinda on the scrawny side). “Your book bag seemed bigger than you! I wondered how you could manage it.”
But did it occur to her to run out there and meet me at the corner, grab my book bag for me, make sure I walked carefully on the sidewalk, protect me from the big boy hat stealer?
No. Nor did it ever occur to me to want her to.
A wonderful writer I know named Lenore Skenazy started a blog a year or two ago, called Free-Range Kids (she’s since written a book by the same name), after she let her young son take the New York City subway home by himself one day, at his request. She got a lot of flack — but plenty of kudos, too. I’ve talked about this before — that kids can’t just roam free anymore, because the world’s not set up for them to. My kids play on that cul-de-sac as much as they can, just as I played on my dead-end street for hours on end. The difference? I walk them there and stay with them, whereas we just went outside by ourselves (hearing, as the door slammed behind us, “Don’t come back until you see your dad’s car in the driveway!”).
I have no solution to the free-range-or-not conundrum. Lenore’s blog’s tagline is “Giving our kids the free reign we had without going nuts with worry,” and that is the tall order today’s parents face. Some, in fact most, of the moms I know don’t even bother worrying about the “range” they give their kids; they just don’t give them much at all, beyond the PVC-fenced confines of their yards or the carpeted expanses of their playrooms, and consider themselves to be doing the right thing.
But that doesn’t feel right to me, and I’m struggling with what does feel right.
I am not naturally fearful on my children’s behalf (I refuse to cower to scare-tactic news stories about danger at every turn, from pedophiles in white vans to head trauma from improper biking). Yet I still can’t just let my sons wander up the street on their own. For one thing, who’s home to watch them out the window? (Not the same number of semi-watchful parents who, village-like, kept an eye on all us kids). And for another, cars are bigger and, I swear, go faster down the street than they did when I was growing up in a similar suburban area. And back then no one was distracted by their cellphones.
My children are still too young for solo subway riding, but I’m looking forward to the day I can lengthen the distance between myself and them, and let them try things on their own. Like walking to a bus stop. Or going to a party: Just last Saturday, I dropped Daniel off at a birthday bash and left. Felt weird — but felt good, too.
I took a lesson from little Hadar, who was the only guest at my boys’ party last fall who showed up parent-free. Her sister walked her up the road, and seemed mightily puzzled (or probably just amused) at all the parents huddled in the rain on my deck. “I’ll come back for you later,” said Tevel.
How free-range are your chickens?
Bridget
July 2, 2009 @ 11:20 am
Ha- I wrote about this on my blog – Helicopter Parents
http://thelittlepumpkinpie.blogspot.com/2008/09/helicopter-parents.html
Jennifer Fink
July 2, 2009 @ 10:14 pm
Mine are pretty free-range — but then again, I live in a small town in the middle of agricultural Wisconsin. My youngest kids (ages 3, 6 and 8) have the run of our “neighborhood,” the 4 houses and yards that stretch across the front of our block. The older 2 of those can alos bike around the block and up the hill if they let me know where they’re going. Of course, I *did* let my 6-yr-old walk to Speech by himself (after I helped him across the street). It’s all of 2 blocks away.
My oldest son, age 11, pretty much has the run of the town, as long as he tells us where he’s going. He even gets to go fishing on his own.
Still — all scary steps, with different answers for each child.
Melanie Nicsinger
July 3, 2009 @ 10:47 am
I had a free-range childhood in a small town and wish I could give my son that same freedom. It’s not the danger that stops me so much as what you said about “who’s home to watch the children?”
When I was growing up, if I was at a friend’s house, their parent would discipline me. Same for any adult who happened to be around. There was an ‘it takes a village’ mentality. Now days, people don’t want to get involved with other people’s kids and when they do, the parents often get defensive. I’ve even seen lawsuit situations.
Neighborhoods aren’t the same anymore, either. My parents still live next to the same people who have always been there–same people since I was born. I, on the other hand, see new people move in and out of my suburban neighborhood regularly. It does make for a different level of trust when you haven’t known them your whole life!
Karen Kroll
July 3, 2009 @ 1:39 pm
I think this is tough one. Growing up, we could be gone for hours in the summer, and my mom would just ring a cow bell when it was time for dinner. (We lived in a rural area, although not on a farm.) Although my mom says we weren’t quite as independent and out-and-about as we remember — that is, she always had a good idea where we were — we were more free-range than kids today.
I think a couple things have changed, at least in our little corner of the world. For one thing, more kids are are in planned activities that don’t occur in the neighborhood. And, I think you’re right about car traffic. There’s more of it and people go faster, even in residential areas. We live just a couple miles from a fun little downtown area, and my kids are old enough to bike there. But, the bike path stops halfway there. While the speed limit is 30, it’s a sort-of major road and many cars go over 40.
This seems like one area where I feel like I’m constantly re-evaluating what’s right, based on my kids ages, what they’re doing, who they’re with, etc.
Karen
Kimberly
July 6, 2009 @ 1:12 pm
Funny that this topic should be on your website today of all days. My husband and I are battling with letting our 10 year old son stay home for an hour or so by himself after school. My lovely, responsible husband keeps saying the mantra “I did it when I was 10” or “you did it when you were 9” but I can’t allow my mommy heart to even think about the possibility. There are to many “what ifs” that keep coming into my head. I have only recently allowed my child the freedom to ride his bike out of the cul-de-sac and he is only allowed within a 2 block radius around our house – so the idea of giving him a key to the front door and saying “see ya in a few hours” is heart wrenching. AND … I live in smallville suburbia with great neighbors. I wish I knew the answer because the mantra of my husband is not enough.
Denise
July 6, 2009 @ 1:15 pm
Kimberly,
thanks for the comment! I feel for you — it must be hard to wrestle with the pros and cons. In that sense, it was just a darn sight easier for my parents, because that’s just what you did. Whereas, in your situation, you’d be going against what current commonsense says. At 10, I had a key to my house (though most of the time my mom was home), and I rode my bike all over the neighborhood unwatched.
Keep reading!
Denise
Sara Aase
July 7, 2009 @ 1:04 pm
I don’t know what the answer is, either. I remember running free and walking to school on our own. My street is too busy and my kids too small to let them roam for now. There are kids all over our neighborhood, but probably mostly hidden in their backyards or not at home. We don’t know many of them. And parents are either working or otherwise don’t share the same schedules. It makes me sad.
Christine
July 13, 2009 @ 5:46 pm
This is fascinating. I live in Japan, and here, young children commute by themselves to school (once they hit elementary school). It’s a very common sight – rare, in fact, to see parents accompanying them. They ride on public transportation and ride bikes around by themselves too. It took me a long time to get used to the social norms but eventually we worked out something that felt right to us. Our children were commuting to an elementary school in another neighborhood – 15 minutes away by foot – so I felt really uncomfortable letting my 6 year old walk around by himself. 2 years later, he does walk by himself, but I walk his 6 year old brother. (School gets out at different times for them). The youngest kids wear bright yellow hats so they will be visible – I posted about this with a photo on my blog.
http://www.origamimommy.org/2009/06/slices-of-life-.html
There is something so freeing about living in a society where parents don’t feel they have to watch over their children and where my son can run out and get me groceries at the corner store (he loves doing this), and in many ways it reminds me of what things were like when we were young. The question for us is how we will adjust once we move back to the U.S.
Lenore Skenazy
August 6, 2009 @ 10:48 pm
Hi All!
Lenore here, the “Free-Range Kids” lady. I think it’s great everyone is evaluating what makes sense for them. One of the “tips” I give in my book is a simple one: Spend an hour that you were going to watch “Law & Order,” or some Anderson Cooper abduction special going outside instead, wandering around your neighborhood. Connect with reality, rather than the scary stuff that is always on TV — those “worst case scenarios” we flash on when we think, “Can my 10 year old stay home for an hour?” Meet the neighbors. Remember why you moved there. And you’ll probably feel a little more confident about your kids and the world afterward. Free-Ranging doesn’t have to happen over night. It can happen gradually. Taking the time to remember that walking 20 feet to a bus stop really is exceedingly safe? That’s a worthwhile lesson — for us and for our kids. Good luck to us all! — Lenore http://www.freerangekids.com
Johanna
August 10, 2009 @ 12:22 am
It does indeed all come back to the TV. Once we stopped watching commercial TV, we forgot to be scared of everything. All I worry about now are mountain lions and bears! Try it – turn off the TV for 2 weeks and see how much happier you are.
Meredith Resnick
September 12, 2009 @ 10:31 am
What an interesting read in the NY Times…your perspective was a perfect fit.
Luis
September 13, 2009 @ 12:10 pm
I think a lot about these issues for a couple of different reasons. First, I’m a parent — my wife and I have an eight-month-old baby girl — and the disconnect between the culture of parenting twenty years ago and the culture of parenting now is just insane. I’m starting to get really concerned about figuring out how to give my kid (and any other future kids) the free-range life I had.
The second reason I think about these issues is that I’m a clinical psychology grad student with a partial specialty in anxiety disorders. The level of anxiety that parents feel about letting their kids range free is (in my mind) very much like the things that happen in anxiety disorders. I keep thinking that therapy could help, and it would be a lot like Lenore (hi Lenore! Love your book!) talks about. You would have a combination of cognitive restructuring stuff (getting your mind back in touch with reality by doing things like turning off the TV and walking around the neighborhood, and combating non-reality-based thinking with information like the true incidence of stranger abduction) and graduated exposure therapy, where you do things like let your kid walk 20 feet to the bus stop while you watch him from the porch, then do it with you going back in the house when he leaves, then letting him walk out the door without you following him, and so forth.)
Many of you may ask, “Why the hell would I need a therapist to help me do that?” Well, this is pretty common-sense stuff, it’s true. Where a good CBT therapist comes in would be in teaching you the model and motivating you to do these things, and helping you to do them in the RIGHT way — the way that’s most likely to decrease your anxiety. And I find, in practice, that people are willing to live for decades at a time with really debilitating, life-interfering anxiety — rather like the way parents are willing to live this very anxious life regarding their children for the entirety of all their kids’ childhoods. That’s another reason why a good CBT therapist could help.
Just some random thoughts as I begin my own parenting journey. Best of luck and strength to you all in yours.
Denise
September 13, 2009 @ 5:34 pm
Thanks, Luis. I think you may be on to something: maybe today’s parents DO need some therapy to let go of their kids. I do also think someone has to start, so everyone else can see that the anxiety is unfounded (at least in part, or exaggerated); and so a sense of lively neighborhoods and communities build up again. Someone’s got to be the first person out the door and out playing on the street!
Denise
Elisa
September 13, 2009 @ 4:40 pm
Hi, I found your blog through the NY Times (congratulations) — very interesting to me because I moved to Long Island from Brooklyn a couple of years ago and was surprised by how little freedom kids have here, compared to city kids. My kids were very “free-range” in Brooklyn; at 9, I was sending them to the corner store alone; my daughter walked to and from her middle school half a mile from home; my son was taking the subway by himself at 13. My neighbor in Huntington will not allow her 13-year-old to walk the three blocks into town by himself.
One time when I was buying my daughter a ticket to take the Long Island Railroad to the city, a woman in the train station told me I shouldn’t let my daughter take the train alone — she was 15 at the time! If she knew my DD was going to get on the subway when she got to Brooklyn, I wonder if she would have called the police.
On the other hand, I actually felt like my kids were a lot safer in NYC, where there are always other people walking around. I just took my dogs for a half-hour walk on this gorgeous Sunday afternoon, and saw not one other person, except in cars. Not to mention that most of the drivers are speeding and talking on their cell phones! So these quiet, tree-lined streets feel sort of desolate and dangerous to me, and I understand why people want to keep their kids safe inside.
Denise
September 13, 2009 @ 5:32 pm
Elisa,
thanks for the reply! And I hear you… We moved here from Astoria. Of course, when we moved my son was a baby, so his range was limited to his stroller, but one of the definite downsides of suburban living as it’s practiced now is the quietness of the place — no one’s outside! Well, in some pockets/areas, yes, but not at all like it was when I grew up not far from here. When my family moved into our house back in the early 70s, I was 4. My mom just sent us outside on that first day to “find friends.” And we did. Not today — my kids didn’t meet anyone in our ‘hood until they started school — and you suddenly realize there were kids in the house three doors down. Weird.
Denise
Kari
September 14, 2009 @ 1:02 pm
I loved reading not just your blog, but all the different responses. I live in Northport (work in Huntington) and my eldest son just started third grade. Since he was in first, he’s been asking to ride his bike to school by himself. I always responded with “Not til you’re in third grade.” Well, that day arrived and I can’t say I wasn’t apprehensive. I took a deep breath and off he went to trek the two and a half blocks. Ten minutes later, there I was on school grounds, checking that his bike was locked and not dented! He’s been riding to and fro (weather permitting) for several days now, and the comments I’ve been receiving range from funny to intrusive. I actually had another mom ask me if I needed to find a carpool for him (let me also add that I’m one of very few moms in the neighborhood who work outside the home). Now my almost six year old started Kindergarten at her ‘big brother’s school.’ She has asked to walk by herself, to which I promptly responded, no way! But I’m considering having her walk with her big brother. It would only be in the mornings, since we don’t have fullday K in Npt, so she’d be picked up in the afternoons. But I really feel this would be a great bonding time for the two of them. If this does happen, I wonder what comments I’ll get then.
Denise
September 14, 2009 @ 1:16 pm
Thanks for your comment, Kari! And good for you for letting your son bike to school. Aren’t people’s comments funny? Walking, in general, is so out of the ordinary in some places that people automatically think, “surely you’d want to drive if you could, right?” My mom walks as much as she can, to run errands or whatever, and neighbors are always slowing down in their cars and offering a ride, thinking maybe her car broke down. If more moms in your area allowed their old-enough kids to walk or bike, everyone would look less “odd.” Meanwhile, I’m a little jealous because here in the S. Huntington district, no schools are accessible by bike; the districting is odd, so many of us live a couple miles from schools, and they’re mostly on busy roads with no sidewalks.
I hope you keep reading, and good luck with kindergarten for your daughter! My little guy just started, but we have full-day (yay!).
Denise
Jim
September 14, 2009 @ 1:12 pm
Congratulations on being mentioned in the NYT article. Great to be noticed.
I grew up in River Edge, NJ in the 50s. Quiet suburb of NYC. We walked and rode our bikes everywhere, and I do mean everywhere. We were gone from home hours at a time, without cell phones, and without checking in. Mom trusted me (mostly because she knew someone would call her if I was out of line anywhere in town). But I truly was free range.
Fast forward to my parenthood….I was in the Army, and my kids learned responsibility quickly. But we always moved. So the only way they learned to fit in was to get out and into the neighborhood. Yet, they had a little less freedom than I did. Our house became the neighborhood safe place. That was comforting.
Now, I work in a school district, and the number one complaint parents have is that they cannot see the bus stop from their house. They call to complain that they want it moved to their driveway. If we did that, the children would never get to school! Still, we have the helicopter parents who barely let go.
Something is lost….a sense of responsibility….a sense of trust….a sense of freedom. My grand children never leave their driveway and have a fenced back yard in one of the safest towns I can imagine. Still, we worry about the unthinkable. Though the “good old days” had a lot of not so good things, we had some freedoms that would be refreshing to enjoy today.
Thanks for the post.
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Stefanie
September 17, 2009 @ 6:14 am
I’m enjoying this discussion. I live in Plainview and my son is 9 years old. I’ve read about Free Range kids and for the past year have been gradually giving my son more freedom. He plays ball with neighbors outside on the lawn without me spectating and refereeing from a nearby lawn chair. I used to monitor all street traffic with a verbal alert system and retrieve all items that went in the gutter. I have gotten myself to where I can stay in the house and only glance out the window from time to time. It probably helps that the other kids are a little older and very respsonsible but after a while you get to trust that your kid is not going to run into the street after a ball without checking for cars. I just wish he’d remember to bring home his baseball glove.
We’ve been bicycling together – in the street! I definitely got looks last year when I chose the street rather than the rare sidewalks in our neighborhood but what little drivers see is in the street not on the sidewalk. I’m not quite ready to let him do this on his own since we’re around the corner from a road where drivers believe the 40 mph limit is a low-end suggestion and in the other direction there are unprotected corners where the nicer car gets the right of way. Eventually my son will get a better feel for this on his own but but for now at least he is learning safety habits from practice. Maybe next year.
Denise
September 17, 2009 @ 9:16 am
Thanks for your thoughts, Stefanie — and good for your for letting your 9-year-old play with the big boys! Living in a similar area to you, I hear you on the car thing. No one drives slowly on residential streets anymore — and EVERYONE seems to be on the phone! It’s like we have to train our kids to be alert to new and different dangers then we had when we were kids!
keep reading,
Denise
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Amber
September 17, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
My son just started kindergarten in the same school both my husband and I went to school in – a small town in rural Iowa. This year, a note went home that K-1-2 kids that ride the bus will not be left at their homes unless an adult is present when they are dropped off. The bus will take them back to school. I can remember very well getting dropped off by the bus at home and waiting the 30-60 minutes until my mom came home in the afternoons. Each parent and each child need to determine their comfort level and each parent should try to encourage independence in their child.
Estherar
September 18, 2009 @ 5:33 am
Yes, we Israelis tend to be more ‘free-range’ than Americans. Also, the fear of a child being kidnapped isn’t really uppermost in most parents’ minds.
My kids live close enough to the school and are old enough to walk there themselves when the weather permits, but I wouldn’t be waiting outside for the school bus with my 6-year-old much beyond the first few days of school if she were to ride there.
I really like your blog and am looking forward to reading more!
(By the way, a minor quibble: Is it possible the baby’s name is aRbel and not aLbel? Hebrew names, especially modern ones, usually have meanings. The former is the name of a mountain north of Tiberias; the latter is gibberish.)
Esther @ Mainstream Parenting Resources (and a fellow mean mommy. Just ask my kids!)
Denise
September 18, 2009 @ 8:39 am
Esther,
Thank you so much for your comment! And getting names right is not a minor quibble — I appreciate you pointing out the error. I actually did think it was Albel based on how his family pronounces it, but when I asked his mom last year the meanings of her children’s names (I love that stuff) I do recall she said it was the name of a mountain. So I suppose I mis-hears.
Happy New Year! And I hope you keep reading.
Denise
Steve
October 11, 2009 @ 7:00 pm
Glad to see you echoing Lenore’s Free Range Sanity. Hopefully our culture will catch on to how irrational many fears are that most people harbor.
If you visited our city and tried to judge how many children lived here by the number you saw riding bikes on our 20+ miles of paved bike paths, you’d decide this was a retirement community – and most of the residents were probably too disabled to walk or bike. And I’m talking about a bike path totally set apart from auto traffic dangers.
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Sunny
October 26, 2010 @ 11:04 pm
I think today’s parents hover even more because the world is a dangerous place.. I’d rather hover than have my child get abducted or hit by a car. I can’t imagine having that on my heart for the rest of my life because I was trying not to “hover”. It’s a different time and place!
-Sunny
Lisa
August 14, 2013 @ 7:43 pm
The school called me today and complained that I wasn’t there to pick my son up from the bus stop yesterday… He’s 6, and his bus stop is 10 feet from the house. I believe he could make it on his own. But apparently, I must wake up my baby, drag her out of the house early every morning and in the afternoon, to sit in the heat and wait for the bus. Otherwise, I’m an abusive parent who neglects her son, and they must call CPS and have my children taken away.